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WASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden plans to come to Cincinnati on Thursday to see how the city is using some of its federal economic stimulus money.

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And Carter sure decimated the military by developing the Trident Submarine, B-2 Bomber, Stealth Aircraft and cruise missles during his term. I'm sure that Obama and Biden knew the economy was pretty well wacked when they took office. I knew, and I'm not a congressman.

fattrak
9:55 PM, 7/8/2009

Continued::::: That leaves the government with the ability to spend enough to end the recession. Government spending has ended every recession since the depression. And yes WWII ended the depression by promoting massive government spending. Now as far as taxes, the stimulus bill lowered your taxes $400 this year and next. $800 in you are married. It would of been $500/$1000 dollars but Republican Senators demanded the $400/$800 level. I guess you weren't the right tax cut for them.

fattrak
9:15 PM, 7/8/2009

Tony::::I must ask where you get that anyone said anything about "taxing your way out of recession?" I think you must mean spending your way out of recession. Now any good economist will tell you the only way to end any recession is to spend more. Now in a recession, most businesses are making less so they spend less. Also consumers are spending less as unemployment climbs.

fattrak
9:08 PM, 7/8/2009

This whole Administration is a JOKE. The only thing they stimulate is their travel miles and party spending at the White House. And don't forget all the wonderful clothing the Lady of the Garden and her kids. As a black woman, I am ashamed that Michelle Obama is now known for her work in the garden.......like working on the plantation! This whole thing is a disgrace!

Cheryl
8:58 PM, 7/8/2009

Fattrack -

You and JG are what the Russians call "Useful Idiots"! for all your propaganda. Show an example of taxing your way out of a recession. Carter tried, didn't work, he then decimated the military, (and it's esprit de corp), to pay for all the social projects he wanted and guess what BHO is doing the same thing. If you think the results are going to be any different this time your wrong. BHO/Biden both knew the state of the economy, they were both sitting US Senators.

Tony
8:04 PM, 7/8/2009

And some more from the link, "Former Republican Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Newt Gingrich also stated: "In all fairness, it's something Gore had worked on a long time. Gore is not the Father of the Internet, but in all fairness, Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet,..."" There is plenty of information about the whole thing at the link I gave. Feel free to give it a look.

fattrak
5:37 PM, 7/8/2009

No Joe didn't make that claim, but then neither did Al Gore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gor...#cite_note-18 This is the Quote "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system." And he did push the initiatives.

fattrak
5:31 PM, 7/8/2009

Indeed I am fattrak, as are you, until B-HO sees fit to tax free thought or outlaw it. Till then I will enjoy my freedon of speech (typing?:-) to the fullest as should you, JG and everyone else.

Joe "The Human Blooper" Biden is free to make as many goofs & gaffes as he likes, and I am free to make fun of them!! Too bad Sen Stuart Smalley was never that funny - and he was TRYING!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71pT...

At least he never claimed he invented the internet!!

Kellee
4:32 PM, 7/8/2009

Kellee::::

LOL, you are free to see things however you choose to see them.

fattrak
3:42 PM, 7/8/2009

fattrak -

How I wish he was ONLY making a mistake or two!

Kellee
3:30 PM, 7/8/2009

Youtube is not considered a reliable source for information. I have video editing programs. I have videos on youtube. Anyone can post anything to youtube. The links you provided showed a tired worn out man making a mistake or two. Reguardless of what you want to make of them, they show nothing else.

fattrak
3:13 PM, 7/8/2009

An earmark is an attachment another congressional bill. It is a way to circumvent the normal process of a bill going to committee, being debated, then voted on. The earmark is rarely mentioned as the original bill makes it's way through congress. Pork barrel spending is a term applied to appropriations bills that generally benefit a state or district within a state. A congressman that "Brings home the bacon" has engaged in pork barrel spending.

fattrak
3:03 PM, 7/8/2009

I'm actually for gun rights, lol.

JG
2:48 PM, 7/8/2009

JG - and just how is your piddling around about the "difference" between earmarks & pork spending and whether B-HO was talking about US territories vs US States furthering any debate on the real issues?
Yes I am fully aware that I brought up both those issues, but was someone with you at your keyboard with a gun to your head forcing you to respond? Although being a leftie loonie you would probably crap yourself if you even see a picture of a gun. I hope B-HO is paying you well for your service.

Kellee
2:39 PM, 7/8/2009

Did you see Kellee how in your last 2 posts you did absolutely nothing to further the debate on the issues?
Imagine where we would be without the bailouts and the stimulus. The banks would have failed. Millions more jobs would be lost because there would be absolutely no credit for businesses to do their business. Even Bush said that sometimes you have to give up ideology in a crisis and that's why he signed the first half of the bailout into law. Without this we would have already collapsed

JG
1:52 PM, 7/8/2009

Actually, I think Biden is coming to Cincinnati to do stand up comic at the comedy club.. :-)

Hee Haw
1:49 PM, 7/8/2009

Travis::::::I realize that is a long period of time. I know there is not a quick and easy fix for the problems we face. We need jobs and we need them as fast as we can create them. The government can only do so much. The current administration has the best plan possible in place to create jobs. That's not much consolation to all the unemployed right now, who want to work. But it is what we have to work with, and if we can work together, we will get through this mess.

fattrak
11:54 AM, 7/8/2009

Yes I did bring up the 57 states remark and I posted B-HO's quote about earmarks. You are the one playing with the words - saying that earmarks and pork are different things and you are the one who said that B-HO was referring to the US territories as well when he said 57 states. You are a typical liberal - just like the Wizard of OZ - pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Most folks with a scintilla of common sense see thru that and B-HO's rating in Ohio is starting to reflect that.

Kellee
10:53 AM, 7/8/2009

Morning Folks...

I think we actually did begin to discuss the real issues-- taxes, health care, etc instead of calling names. Kellee you're the one that brought up states and some other guy brought up earmarks. I'm just replying from the liberal point of view.

JG
10:36 AM, 7/8/2009

Do you even realize fattrak thats a 1 year 1/2 away. Thats a long time to be waiting for that many jobs to be created,that wouldn't even begin to put a dent in the unemployment numbers.

Travis Aker
10:32 AM, 7/8/2009

Of course JG is a democrap. He wastes his time arguing about terminology - earmark vs pork, states vs territories - po-tay-to, po-tah-to. Then turning around and saying we should be discussing the "real issues" - true Dem "Do as I say not as I do" fashion.

I'll bet he LOVED Bubba's classic:

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement"

Kellee
9:16 AM, 7/8/2009

JG--

When were you appointed head of PR for the White House? And if BHO is so right, why do you feel the need to so vigorously defend him? His actions should stand on their own according to your line of thinking.....

tee hee
9:00 AM, 7/8/2009

jo biden is a fools fool. He was chosen because he could never do what LBJ did and poses no threat to Obama.

What Have We Done?
8:45 AM, 7/8/2009

yes the territories have primaries too, but they are NOT states. You might want to get new hearing aid batteries JG. If you listen to the soundbyte he very distinctly says "We've been to all 57 states", not "states & territories"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH...

Actually he says he's been to 57 & has 1 to go - so there are 58 states? Then he goes on to say he couldn't go to AK & HI - that's 60!

Maybe Joe isn't the dumb one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unke...

Kellee
7:48 AM, 7/8/2009

JG, if you read the studies, the increases in taxes will hit EVERYONE since his policies increased taxes at the state and local level as well as us being able to plan on paying off the additional debt. Also if you look at the additional costs for a small business in the cap and trade, more regulation to keep up with, additional taxes on it then I will be paying a LOT more in taxes, just some are hidden and not slapped on as federal income taxes.

Quentin
2:54 AM, 7/8/2009

Fast on the excuses for his lack of actions. He takes credit for Iraq being safer so he gets the blame too. I bid on homes, businesses and governemnt construction and it is a joke. Energy efficient products cost more as we all know and even government agencies refuse to spend the extra money though I have a proven product that saves a lot more after a few years. You can't spend upfront what you don't have unless you are the government who is too busy buying GM and banks.

Quentin
2:48 AM, 7/8/2009

Quentin:::

None of the stimulus money has gone to the banks or automakers. You have confused the stimulus funds with the TARP funds. The stimulus bill has lowered taxes by $400 this year and next. Thanks to Senate Republicans your tax credit is $400 instead of $500. There is plenty of credits to home owners and businesses for energy conservation. That makes me wonder why your business is left out.

fattrak
9:41 PM, 7/7/2009

Yeah Adams was such a great president. He passed the Alien and Sedition Acts that outlawed speech against the government. That's why the Federalists never won an election again. Quentin, the Dems don't want you to pay more taxes. Just the top income brackets--the same rate under Clinton.

JG
8:57 PM, 7/7/2009

Wow. This thread has gotten popular. The 57 states thing. That was during the primary campaign Remember, not just states have primaries. 50 states + DC + Puerto Rico + Guam + American Samoa + Virgin Islands +Democrats Abroad. That's 56 contests, he added 1 by mistake. That's what he was talking about.

JG
8:52 PM, 7/7/2009

I own a small business and it involves energy conservation but so far all the money for the "stimulus" goes strictly to banks and automakers or political friends of OBH and Biden. Neither party is worth crap with the way they keep spending like drunken monkeys but I am sick of hearing all these great things about Obama from the same pople who tell me I need to work more and pay more taxes so they can have a handout! Work two jobs like I am doing instead!

Quentin0352
8:38 PM, 7/7/2009

Two irreconcilable statements - President Obama nd the Democrats continue to tell us this is the worst economy since the great depression and then VP Biden tells us they didn't realize how bad it was! And you want to trust these guys with your lives and freedoms! John Adams said those who preer "tanquility and servitude" had best be prepared to "crouch down and lick the hand which feeds it"

TRS
7:46 PM, 7/7/2009

Travis, I know you are wondering where the jobs are. This was what they were expecting to generate. "Obama's advisers say an $850 billion plan could generate about 3.2 million jobs by the first quarter of 2011." Nobody promised overnight results. We've been losing 500,000 jobs a month since last summer. The pace seems to be slowing. We don't get to choose the times we live in. We choose how we live in the times we have.

fattrak
7:33 PM, 7/7/2009

I think they should give him a lolly and have him ride his favorite ride - AMTRAK - up & down the East Coast. But then, we wouldn't have any "Bidenisms" to entertain us.

- a 3-letter word - jobs - j-o-b-s
- stand up Chuck! - to a man in a wheelchair
- do we put ketchup on these or do you do it for us?

and let's not forget B-HO's remark about having been to all "57" states.

Al Franken WISHES he were this funny - and Joe boy isn't even TRYING!

Kellee
7:22 PM, 7/7/2009

His proposal includes tax cuts of up to $300 billion — including $500 for most individuals and $1,000 for couples if one spouse is employed — as well as more than $100 billion for businesses. Funny how the only way the Senate Republicans would sign on to the stimulus bill was to reduce the tax cuts to $400/$800. And both parties shot down his proposal of tax breaks to businesses for each american job they created.

fattrak
7:22 PM, 7/7/2009

Stay in DC, (or if your bored, because they won't give you any real projects to do, go to Deleware). Don't waste our time here, telling us what your going to do! And then going back DC and enacting policies which will really just make things worse.

Bruce
6:58 PM, 7/7/2009

Ah, how the McCain/Palin fans continue to sigh!

LOL!

sassy
6:48 PM, 7/7/2009

I just took a quick look at the link Kellee provided. It says Obama would ban earmarks from the stimulus bill. There were No Earmaks attached to the stimulus bill. The only bill singed by Obama was the budget bill for fiscal year 2009. That bill was a budget submitted by the previous president, and left hanging. Instead of shutting down the government, or working through another stopgap spending measure and renegotiating Bush's budget, Obama signed the bill.

fattrak
6:44 PM, 7/7/2009

Hold on there for one second Jake, she give you a article that directly quoted what Barrack Obama said word for word,the problem is that people can't handle the TRUTH about what is said. They try to deny it,the problem is, its right there in black and white.

Travis Aker
6:27 PM, 7/7/2009

I thought the stimulus was designed to create jobs. While I am sure that some jobs will be utilized to redevelop the manufacturing plant to condos, don't you need jobs to buy a condo?

Maybe the Can Co. plant should be turned into a different manufacturing plant?

Seems we are putting the cart before the horse.

frankrusso
6:15 PM, 7/7/2009

They are very delicate creatures that must be dealt with gently, otherwise they end up looking like Helen Thomas!

Kellee
5:02 PM, 7/7/2009

Well, it does contain a quote from the Messiah, but at least it is an accurate one. I did hear the soundbyte from it as well. Besides, I didn't want to post a link to Fox and have all the lefties heads explode!! >:-D

Kellee
5:01 PM, 7/7/2009

Oh brother Kelle you seriously posted a link to msnbc. What a joke! Maybe, the smart of the smart Keith Obermann, Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow, will give a unbiased opinion. That and monkies might fly out of my butt to!

You can no longer be taken seriously for doing that!

"You are the weakest link, goodbye!

Jake
4:57 PM, 7/7/2009

If we can't realistically expect B-HO to eliminate pork/earmarks (po-tay-to/po-tah-to, 6 vs half dozen) - and I have no faith that he can or even wants to - then why did he say he would ban all of them - not cut down on them. His exact words were "ban all earmarks" - his words, not a paraphrase. Click on the link in my post, his quote is right there.

Kellee
4:50 PM, 7/7/2009

JG - you must be a rare breed if you want others to see ALL sides! :-)

Kellee
4:45 PM, 7/7/2009

JG-

Your right if you call trading 2 million jobs for 500k jobs getting better, that's government math. You may look at it as a gain, but for mysef and most people it is a loss of 1.5m jobs, that are not coming back due to his policies. I do appreciate your attempts to give a different POV, but you can't defend the undefendable. Everytime he speaks I cringe because he hurts real people (like me) who just want to live freely with limited taxes and regulation.

larry
4:29 PM, 7/7/2009

at least...,

Don't say that low income people have a poor work ethic. They do the hardest work yet still struggle from week to week.

JG
4:28 PM, 7/7/2009

You're right lance. Obama played politics with that issue. I'm just saying that no matter what he said, the president shouldn't and probably can't stop earmarks or pork barrel spending. So don't expect it.

JG
4:24 PM, 7/7/2009

Dear J,

At least your kids will learn what it means to fight for their country and the freedom those sacrifices bring to all of us. My kids under Obama learn a poor work ethic, how to look for a hand out and put the blame on others. Looks like you've learned lesson #3 already.

At least they'l learn to fight
4:22 PM, 7/7/2009

JG-

At the end of the day is their really much difference between Pork Barrel & Ear marks. You have to be either a lawyer, politician or both by the way you parse your words. Cut, eliminate Obama knew what type of crowd he was talking to, and what he was saying, when he talked to this point. Your correct, congress controls spending, buthe has a complicit congress at this point, which makes 2010 very important in the balance of power. That's why he's doing so much, so fast.

lance
4:16 PM, 7/7/2009

And Larry, you just admitted that there will be improvement in the upcoming election years. Well there you go folks. A conservative admitted that Obama will makes things better.

JG
4:14 PM, 7/7/2009

Larry I'm just one of the few liberals that live in southwestern Ohio. Just wanna make sure that everyone gets all sides.

JG
4:12 PM, 7/7/2009

JG-

When did you become the spokesperson for the White House? If you remember the initial stimilus which was done under Bush was pushed by a democrat house/senate remember Pelosi & Reid. As the keen strategist you are, you also know that the administration has timed real stimiuls spending to occur in election years so he can get on the stump and say "gee look we are just turning the corner" I need 4 more years to finish what I've started. And lap dogs will follow.

Larry
4:07 PM, 7/7/2009

I am surprised that goofy joe's visit is worth mentioning in the paper. Must be a slow news day.

Peggy Sue
4:05 PM, 7/7/2009

Right Kellee. Cut, not eliminate. Pork barrel spending in not necessarily earmarked. Earmarks are what Obama described. Pork barrel spending is when federal money is used for projects that benefit a particular district. Allowing the president a "line item veto" to cut it out of bills goes beyond constitutional checks and balances. It has to be up to Congress to cut it, not the president.

JG
4:00 PM, 7/7/2009

Just like I said, in my last statement is exactly what Obama said. Liar!!! That Obama is.

Travis Aker
4:00 PM, 7/7/2009

Would you all just listen to yourselves. Its plain embarrassing to think that nothing is ever going to get done as long as you people keep on crying. Why not put all this ENERGY into actually doing something, and not sit around playing the blame game.I mean c`mon people, growup. Yes were in it deep, with no hopes in sight for getting any better. When is this going to be referred to as a depression and not just a recession. Mr president:We are really hurting here. Is that more that you think now.

FreedomWriter
3:59 PM, 7/7/2009

mike jacksons funeral is over!! thank goodness

HOOLIO
3:59 PM, 7/7/2009

"And no, Obama never promised to eliminate pork barrel spending, that was McCain." - JG

"...new higher standard of accountability, transparency and oversight. We are going to ban all earmarks, the process by which individual members insert projects without review." - B-HO Jan 6 2009 - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2852511...

That quote sure makes it sound like he promised to cut out pork barrel spending to me.

Kellee
3:53 PM, 7/7/2009

Travis,
Unemployment peaks at the end or even after a recession is over. The jobs are with those who will begin their projects soon. John Boehner just had to backtrack on a statement similar to yours. Look it up. http://www.cleveland.com/news/plain...
Unemployment is rising at a slower rate than it was.

JG
3:52 PM, 7/7/2009

Hey mom of the toddler who doesnt want to bring another child into the world. Obama only gets 4 years. If he hasnt improved things by then, then he wont be revoted into office. Then you can lay the blame on another president. The fact is, all of the politicians are corrupt, and that is the downfall of our economy and government. Our government doesnt work, at least not efficiently. Too many special interests.

miss m
3:50 PM, 7/7/2009

You're welcome. If you're blaming the Pres for your reason not to have a child that's crazy. I had 2 under Bush and both of my children have never lived in an America that isn't at war. Go live in another country if you think you have it so bad!

J
3:49 PM, 7/7/2009

Earl, that was the second stimulus. Remember Bush's checks? That didn't work. And yes, many people are feeling the effects of the stimulus. You probably are because if the banks had failed without the bailout, we would be finished.

Kellee, Obama was saying that we use the most resources and contribute the most to global warming. No, government run healthcare is not on its way, just a public option to choose if you want. There are some fuel efficient bigger cars.

JG
3:46 PM, 7/7/2009

Well than tell me this where are the jobs? Surely I ain't seeing any being created. All I see is that the unemployment is going up and more and more people are being layed off. Obama approval rating just went from 67-31, to like 47-41.

Travis Aker
3:45 PM, 7/7/2009

I just want to thank everyone that voted for Obama. I have one toddler and would like another child, but don't see it fair to bring them into the world Obama is creating for their future. Inflation, Huge National Debt, No Freedom of Choice, Socialized Medicine and a plan that the one toddler I do have could have come up with. Thanks. Thanks for Nothing.

Obama Voters
3:44 PM, 7/7/2009

He'll have to look in the pockets of the city leaders to find the stimulus.

Tom
3:40 PM, 7/7/2009

Ben's right--this has been going on since the deregulation policies of Reagan and some moderate Democrats. Bush isn't all to blame. It's more of what he didn't do than what he did. Money would be better spent than on Iraq and tax cuts for the rich.
Travis-not all of the stimulus money is out yet and not all the work has started. We will see jobs. And no, Obama never promised to eliminate pork barrel spending, that was McCain. The ability of the president to cut this would give too much power.

JG
3:37 PM, 7/7/2009

Is anyone feeling any effect from the stimulus package, outside of the country now being 3 times the amount in debt than when the great one took over?

I hope JB talks about how good the first one went that a second stimulus package is needed.

earl
3:36 PM, 7/7/2009

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK" - B-HO May 18, 2008

Maybe that's not exactly "condemning" but it sure as crap sounds like it.

As far as the size of car - would you rather have a wreck in a Honda Fit or a Hummer? With Gov't run healthcare on the horizon I'd rather give myself a chance to NOT have to wait a week for an MRI or surgery thank you.

Kellee
3:34 PM, 7/7/2009

Well at least they're sending Dumb and not Dumber.

Dumb and Dumber
3:30 PM, 7/7/2009

Mama- Obama has spent more money in the last 6 months than Bush had spent in the last 8 years of office even when we where fighting two wars. Obama is digging us a hole that we can't get out of, its hurting everybody. Where is the so called jobs that the stimulus money was supposed to create, instead its going towards pork barrel projects. In which he said in his campaign that he going to eliminate, he lied big time about that one.

Travis Aker
3:30 PM, 7/7/2009

You think it only took 8 years to get where we are now?? Are you really that stupid? Do some research and educate yourself. We've been driving to where we are for the past several decades but no one cared until the bottom fell out. Now its so easy to blame Bush instead of taking responsibility for their own part. And yes, complacency is just as bad. Now quit complaining and help get this nation back on its feet.

Ben
3:28 PM, 7/7/2009

FOKeith-

Your right all those guy's w/ ivy league educations are doing a great job! And if I recall in someones book didn't he own up to smoking weed and snorting coke.

Defending your point by cracking on someone who is not involved in the story, is the same as not defending your point.

The guy is going to come here and waste everyones time & money, because he has zero cache' and they can't find a useful purpose in the WH.

Larry
3:20 PM, 7/7/2009

It took 8 years with Bush to get us in this mess. Now it will take 50 years to get us out! We will not get out over night!!!! Anyone who thinks Republicans are for the working people are blind!!!!

Mama
3:15 PM, 7/7/2009

Perfect timing ,,, Huge deficits, reckless spending and now Biden is coming. We will all have less of everything, with people like him in leadership positions

Hamilton Kid
3:13 PM, 7/7/2009

You can't be an anarchist without being able to spell anarchy. Did Rush tell you that about the stimulus? Or some other pill addled moron without a college degree? (See: Glen Beck, Sean Hannity)

FOKeith
3:04 PM, 7/7/2009

Kellee,
They don't condemn the use of SUV's and comfortable temperatures. You are just looking at it from the wrong angle. They talk about the economic incentives of driving fuel efficient cars and lowering utility bills. Doing these things will save people money, which will make people better off, which will therefore stimulate the economy. In the long run, this will prevent climate change. People should think of global warming as an economic issue.

JG
3:03 PM, 7/7/2009

JG -

and you are right - the real issues need to be debated. I hope one day soon that the MSM will get their collective heads out of B-HO's butt and actually do their jobs. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

Kellee
3:02 PM, 7/7/2009

Wait to you see this enviroment bill go into effect this idiot biden wants. the average tax payers utilities will go up 3500.00 a year. stimulus is a joke!

anarchey
3:01 PM, 7/7/2009

Sally -

That ****** would be B-HO

Kellee
2:58 PM, 7/7/2009

JG - I know the President has to travel & appear in public. I would expect him to do nothing less. The point is that B-HO and the Gore-ites spend their time p*ssing & moaning about how terrible we are when we drive our SUV's (we have 2, as well as a Mini Cooper) or dare to keep our homes at a comfortable temperature, yet they never seem to practice what they preach. They seem to always employ the "Do as I say, not as I do" approach. We need a leader, not a lecturer.

Kellee
2:57 PM, 7/7/2009

For the stimulus to work the money needs to leave Washington and the State coffers and make it into the economy.

Jerome
2:56 PM, 7/7/2009

Does the White House know he's loose again?

becki
2:50 PM, 7/7/2009

Say it ain't so Joe, don't come.

Lora
2:48 PM, 7/7/2009

There is no stimulus, just political graft. Until we free ourselves from the beltway elitist class in Washington, we will never see any meaningful improvements. Thinking people have seen enough of the BHO regime to know that he, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, et al are simply trying to push America beyond the point of no return economically. We need statesmen and women by the boatload, and someone to lead us. Tough to get through the liberal media filters, however. Yet we still wait, wait, wait......

cda
2:39 PM, 7/7/2009

Joe, what an idiot, what ****** made him VP?

Sally
2:37 PM, 7/7/2009

Who invited him? Go home joe, you're not needed here, we have enough here without you.

Jane
2:35 PM, 7/7/2009

Though I would love to have the chance to see him stick his foot in his mouth once again, I could care less to hear what he has to say. I still would rather have seen the stimulus money go directly into the wallets of the American people from whom it came!

SUE
2:34 PM, 7/7/2009

I'm predicting a repeat of the crowds Bidumdumm faced in Erie, Pennsylvania. So few sheep that the staff will remove the chairs to make it look like there is a large crowd for the benefit of the MSM.

William
2:31 PM, 7/7/2009

The talking gaf needs to be boo'd off stage. VP, what a joke.

jim
2:31 PM, 7/7/2009

Kellee,
The president is expected to travel and give speeches. If he didn't, and gave satellite speeches, you guys would call him Kim Jong Il and complain that he wasn't in the public. They have to drive armored SUV's and fly Air Force One to protect him from right wing extremists. And Berryboy, you're right. Though he has been more transparent than most presidents, we haven't seen these things to the extent that he campaigned on them. And no, transparency, etc are not real issues.

JG
2:31 PM, 7/7/2009

Say home Joe. We don't need you. We don't need a stimulus from DC either. We just need BO and the fed. govt. to stay out of our way and out of our pockets and let the private sector decide what businesses succeed or fail.

Reader
2:30 PM, 7/7/2009

Does he think anyone will actually show up? I can't believe obama lets him go out in public, let the gafs begin. As always the talking fool should be a hilarious.

stanley
2:27 PM, 7/7/2009

To all that see through the facade of Obama, it's too bad we have to live with his crushing errors in judgment. Obama has quickly ruined the US, and fostered lie after lie during his campaign. He bought votes from the underclass with his promises. And, there are still idiots that think he's "great". Obama has caused more damage to this country fiscally than all past presidents combined. He's no more than a fraud.

painfultruth
2:26 PM, 7/7/2009

John your a idiot!

What in the world does Cheney have to do with what Biden does? All he's going to do is waste our time and resources by tying up the roads and the police. To do what? Tell us how bad the economy is? Guess what, we already know this Quit campaining, last I checked you won the job. The campaign is over, now go back to DC and do the job you were elected to do.

Classy guy John, wanting to shoot me. Get out of your mom's basement and get a grip.

Paul
2:23 PM, 7/7/2009

I bet it costs $1.6 million for Biden and his entourage to travel to Cincinnati for a day.

jim
2:03 PM, 7/7/2009

Hopefully soon people will wake up from their B-HO coma and realize the emperor has no clothes. Common sense has to prevail.

Kellee
2:02 PM, 7/7/2009

I would love to debate the issues. Name me one MSM that does that. They spin everything with their invective elitism. How about the issue of transparency that was promised? Where is that one? How about allowing five days of public comment before signing bills? How about not appointing political donors to ambassadorships? How about not hiring lobbyists? How about disclosing white house visitor lists? Oh, right these aren't "issues" are they. They are just the truth.

Berryboy
2:01 PM, 7/7/2009

JG - Bush did his share of traveling, as do all Presidents & VP's. But he wasn't constantly yammering on about global warming (or is it "climate change" this week?) and chastising us for driving SUV's, or telling us what to set our thermostats on. If B-HO is so "eco-friendly" why did he fly to Chicago a few weeks ago to give a 2 hour speech? Why not just do it via satellite? Why fly to NYC & back with Michelle for their "date night"? Why not take Biden's precious AMTRAK? Hypocrisy's a b***h.

Kellee
1:57 PM, 7/7/2009

I wonder how many morons in Tipp City who lost their jobs voted for a Jack *** on the campaign trail in 2004 that said "Outsourcing is good for the economy"! Probably Paul!

Reality
1:57 PM, 7/7/2009

Let the Potemkin tours begin.

Jim 5
1:54 PM, 7/7/2009

JG, Bush wasn't the one whining about "global warming" and "carbon footprints". The Demolibs want to whine about carbon emissions, but it seems inapplicable to their own actions. The Demolibs just passed what will be the final "death tax" on the USA with the clean air act. Manufacturers will flock to China, and your own electric bill will triple. Obama and Biden have caused irreperable damage to the USA, and most fools don't even understand what has happened. You are one of those morons!

painfultruth
1:54 PM, 7/7/2009

If Joe wants to see our stimulus dollars at work, he can come up to Dayton and watch NCR pack their bags and move to Atlanta!

Pete
1:51 PM, 7/7/2009

Remember when Obama said all we had to do was make sure our tires where inflated properly and that would alleviate the energy problem in this country and people laughed at him and he said we are being "ignorant". Well, isn't this "ignorant" to think that a million dollars is going to save Ohio? Another collective brain drain. Reminds me of the movie "Being There" with Peter Sellers. And, Sarah Palin is supposed to be the dumb one and Obama a genius. Give me a break.

Muddywater
1:48 PM, 7/7/2009

I bet all you guys didn't complain about Bush traveling. Come on... All of these important political issues and you guys want to complain about airplanes. Why can't the real issues be debated?

JG
1:43 PM, 7/7/2009

Let him ride through Over the Rhine and see where they want to put the trolley cars and waste money.

Mr. Business
1:41 PM, 7/7/2009

Right on Paul! On one hand they fly around like it's nothing, and on the other they preach at everyone else about their "carbon footprint".

On the bright side, it's a chance to see Joe "The Human Blooper" Biden in person! I can't wait to see/hear what he comes up with while in Cincinnati. God help us all.

Kellee
1:38 PM, 7/7/2009

I wish Cheney would stop by and shoot Paul in the face. If Paul survives, he has to apologize for stopping a bullet with his face.

John
1:38 PM, 7/7/2009

Savanation must be beside himself....! ;)

tee hee
1:36 PM, 7/7/2009

Please don't come here! Save the money on jet fuel, all you'll do is cause traffic back ups, increase police staffing/payroll, and give some nonsensible speech. Stay home, and bug someone else!

Paul
1:32 PM, 7/7/2009

oh-boy i cant wait...Hope Alec Baldwin is with him!!!

hoolio
1:31 PM, 7/7/2009

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